[ale] OT: Anybody sick today?

Stephen Touset stephen at touset.org
Tue Dec 30 12:16:51 EST 2003


I apologize for the multiple emails. Evidently Outlook Express (can you tell
I'm at work?) doesn't close emails when you hit the Ctrl+Enter hotkey. So I
hit it multiple times, wondering what the hell was going on. Sorry, folks!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Touset" <stephen at touset.org>
To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?


> Unfortunately, most of the weight lost in the initial few weeks of the
> Atkins diet is water; your body has started to burn slightly higher ratios
> of fats to carbohydrates, and fat burning uses up significantly more
water.
>
> Also, I've never been a fan of treating symptoms. Most often, being
> overweight is a symptom of larger health concerns--bad eating habits, lack
> of exercise, etc. What you need to be treating is your health, not the
> weight. While Atkins may do a great job of dropping those scale numbers,
it
> also does a nice job of completely messing up the chemistry your body was
> designed to handle, which can't be healthy. And in the end, it's not the
> numbers on the scale that determine how long your heart keeps ticking, but
> the other ones which get ignored when people equate being thin and light
> with being healthy.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Hubbs" <hbbs at comcast.net>
> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:33 AM
> Subject: RE: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
>
>
> > I've been doing a reduced-carb thing since about June and I've lost on
> > the order of 20-25 pounds; I haven't weighed this since college (and I'm
> > now 40).  I've had to shrink my watchband and my wedding ring, sized
> > over ten years ago, has begun to fall off my hand.
> >
> > I used to be a Raisin-Bran-for-breakfast guy; that went out the window
> > and so has pasta twice a week!
> >
> > I went basically almost-no-carb that first week and then went up to a
> > less severe but greatly reduced level.
> >
> > - Jeff
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 10:30, Eichler, Paula J. wrote:
> > > Periodically I "do Atkins" to reduce my weight by 10-15 pounds.  Most
of
> > > the loss is retained water and a little fat.  It is easily regained
when
> > > I go off the diet.
> > >
> > > This diet is for the "carbo cravers".  I love potatoes, bread, rice,
> > > pasta, beer, etc. and will eat drink and be merry until my clothes
don't
> > > fit anymore.  Atkins effectively removes these cravings and the weight
> > > comes off pretty fast.  After a week, I have to remind myself to eat,
> > > because I just don't get hungry ..pj
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew Magee [mailto:mattmagee.md at netzero.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:42 AM
> > > To: groups at ChangingLINKS.com; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "ChangingLINKS.com" <groups at ChangingLINKS.com>
> > > To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:44 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > However, usually it greatly increases cholesterol.  If you go on
> > > the
> > > diet
> > > > > > > be sure to get yours checked.  While I lost 20# on it, a
> > > subsequent
> > > Physical
> > > > > > > caused my doctor to order me off of it permanently.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > > ..heads off for yucky diet dinner food.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I call "myth."
> > > > > My cholesterol was measured via standard scientific methods.  No
> > > myth
> > > > > in the numbers.  Anyone at risk (almost everyone on this list)
> > > should
> > > > > spend the few hundred dollars to get their cholesterol checked.
An
> > > > > extra 10 years of life could be the result...now back to our
> > > regularly
> > > > > scheduled geekdom.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > My reaction was to your use of the word "usually."
> > > > I was not doubting that your cholesterol level was raised.
> > > > The point is you seem to blame the diet, claiming it "usually"
raises
> > > the
> > > level.
> > > > Then, you tell us that your doctor blamed the diet as well, and told
> > > you
> > > to stay off it.
> > > > And while respecting those facts, I posed two questions:
> > > >
> > > > The logical question is "how can you raise your cholesterol if you
are
> > > eating less of it?"
> > >
> > > This question reminds me of what people said about the negative
effects
> > > of
> > > emissions reducing equipment on 1970's vintage cars.  When the
> > > automakers
> > > were forced to reduce emissions in the early 70's, their methods had
the
> > > unfortunate effect of making the engines less fuel efficient.  The
> > > question
> > > was (and still is) "how can you burn more fuel, but make less
> > > pollution?"
> > > The answer is simple...... it's how you combine it.  If I read right,
> > > the
> > > atkins diet is supposed to "reprogram" your body to be more efficient
> > > with
> > > its food.  The idea is that all those carbs screw around with your
> > > metabolism, and make you fat indirectly by ruining your chemistry.
So,
> > > the
> > > very reason that the Atkins diet can work for one factor (weight) it
> > > could
> > > have an adverse effect on another factor (cholesterol).  Your body is
> > > not
> > > simply a cholesterol collection device.  It processes cholesterol
based
> > > on
> > > many factors.   This logically explains why some people can take
drastic
> > > measures to reduce their cholesterol intake and take medication, but
> > > still
> > > have outrageously high levels in their bloodstream.  This being true,
I
> > > can
> > > see how it could be posssible that even if you take in less
cholesterol,
> > > you
> > > may end up with more in your system.
> > >
> > > Maybe Dow could shed some light on this, as he is a chemistry guy.
> > >
> > > > The second question is "if you are eating more cholesterol on the
diet
> > > . .
> > > . why?"
> > > > And now: What would happen if you binged that "diet" food you are
> > > eating
> > > now?
> > > >
> > > > -course you don't have to answer any of that, I was just clarifying-
> > > > -back to our regularly scheduled geekdom-
> > > > -- 
> > > > Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter,
> > > > Drew Brown
> > > > http://www.ChangingLINKS.com
> > > >
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