[ale] Re: More for the ALS record

[Robert L. Harris]

I'd be up for helping, either research, mule work when it happens, or
running some demo.  Let me know what you want and I'll do whatever I
can.


Thus spake Mark Angeli (webmaster at tinyminds.org):

> That sounds like a cool plan. Could also offer speakers (some of the more
> popular topics from the past couple of years), contact some of the distros
> see if they would like to have any representation or send any promotional
> stuff as well.
> 
> I'm planning (God and my Wife willing) to attend next weeks ALE-NW meeting.
> I'd be up for talking about this with anyone interested in helping put it
> together....
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Robert L.
> Harris
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:29 AM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] Re: More for the ALS record
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> An install fest along with different Demos running on tables.  Things
> like the knoppix ported security tool: http://www.localareasecurity.com/
> and other "recovery/diagnostics" tools along with different distro's,
> desktops, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> Thus spake Mark Angeli (webmaster at tinyminds.org):
> 
> > I understand the problem of size becoming too much, and I can also see why
> > the ALS had to incorporate. I did note that originally, it was the Atlanta
> > Linux Expo and it was held one saturday at Ga Tech.
> >
> > why couldn't we start out with something like this again? Most of the
> > speakers at the 1997 expo were (as noted on the site) members of the ALE.
> It
> > shouldn't be too hard to coordinate something like this... perhaps make it
> > an InstallFest on Steroids.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> > tfreeman at intel.digichem.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:19 AM
> > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > Subject: [ale] Re: More for the ALS record
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Marc Torres wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 05:01:22PM -0400, tfreeman at intel.digichem.net
> > wrote:
> > > > IIRC, ALS grew to a size where the volunteers couldn't handle the job
> > and
> > > > pay their bills, much less have a life.
> > >
> > > This is more or less true.  Some things scale as they are reproduced
> > > year to year and become easier- but others do not.  Backoffice work
> > > like contracts, receipts and accounts receivable just get bigger.
> > >
> > > On the flip side of the scale question, it was also 5 years of effort
> > > and many just needed to move on to other things in their lives.
> > >
> > > > Hence selling out to a larger organization with professional staff.
> > > > Didn't work.
> > >
> > > Ok... Flat out... ENOUGH of the Weekly World News version of ALS info.
> > > I will not stand for the slander of hardworking people.
> >
> > Marc - my deepest appologies. I meant no disrespect/slander of hardworking
> > volunteers, nor disrespect of the decision itself, nor disrespect to the
> > staff of USENIX. I was attempting to be very brief in summary, and managed
> > to screw it up instead.
> >
> > My intention was (and hopefully it comes out better this time) to indicate
> > that the transition from volunteer to full-time staff was both rational,
> > and regretably less than successful. Admittedly I did not know enough of
> > the details to fill in elements of the transition.
> >
> > Again, I appologise for giving offense when I know the level of dedication
> > involved in putting on such a convention.
> >
> > <<snip well stated history>>
> >
> > >
> > > > It is possible to put on a major show with almost exclusively
> volunteer
> > > > labor, check out PitCon next time it comes to Atlanta for an example.
> > >
> > > Yup it is, we did it in 1997-1999 :-)
> >
> > And did a wonderful job that I was foolish enough to not be able to
> > attend.
> >
> > <<snip>>
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Life is not a destination, it's a journey.
  Microsoft produces 15 car pileups on the highway.
    Don't stop traffic to stand and gawk at the tragedy.

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