[ale] KDE reinstall
Zyman, Andy
zymana at hra.nyc.gov
Thu Aug 7 14:27:22 EDT 2003
Nathan,
and logical question : and is there a way not to go into this ?
i see 2 answers :
1. don't touch if it works - have a question right away: and how about
"redHat on each desk in each household" && "Windose is in the past" ? so
having in mind that users ( for example myself ) are very enthusiastic about
installing whole bunch of different staff aka games, useless programs...
2. <forgot ${ >
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan J. Underwood [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:14 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: RE: [ale] KDE reinstall
>
>
> Andy,
>
> When you're doing the uninstall (without nodeps), be
> very consious of the
> 'stuff' that it says won't work (this is a lesson that I've
> learned over, and
> over, and over, and over ....). I had gotten to the point
> with RH that if I
> wanted to completely uninstall / reinstall something, often
> times I'd just see
> what uninstalling it would break, uninstall much of that, and
> start from
> scratch. On that note (another little trick that I've
> found). If you do this,
> and end up reinstalling a bunch of stuff that requires one
> thing and the other
> thing to install, this has worked for me. Move all of your
> RPM's into a
> directory (I usually use /usr/src, or /tmp), and type rpm
> -ivh * (I think that
> was the correct syntax), and RH will work out the
> dependancies (as long as you
> have everything that it thinks that it needs. Otherwise,
> it'll tell you).
> Another handy option with RPM (in the event that you're just
> wanting to upgrade)
> is rpm -Uvh (upgrade, verbose, hash marks).
>
> Nathan
>
> Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
>
> > Nathan,
> > I really appreciate your answers . Main thing for me was to
> know that i can
> > do %) that using rpm. Very helpful was a note about --nodep.
> > I have been trying to install netscape but it started
> asking for whole bunch
> > of different packages and when i tried to reinstall them it
> triggered
> > dependency n other and so on so on. so i finally gave up.
> and moved to lower
> > version of browser.
> >
> > I don't quite understand the "dependency" thing. I
> understand that it
> > basically "this need to be in place so that will work". But
> in case of glib
> > libraries, i can create links and it should ( well, not a
> rule of thumb
> > obviously ) work OK. At the same time if i do remove with
> --nodep check,
> > than how can i find out if all progs will be alive?
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nathan J. Underwood [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:31 PM
> > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > Subject: RE: [ale] KDE reinstall
> > >
> > >
> > > Andy,
> > >
> > > I just wish that I could be of more help. As I
> > > mentioned, I've just about
> > > given up on RPM's (see my several earlier posts about Gentoo
> > > :-). As long as
> > > it's not a production box, and you're a bit inquisitive, it
> > > should be a real
> > > learning experience ;-). Keep shooting questions if you
> > > like, and I'll try to
> > > keep answering. I'm making no guarantee that the answers
> > > will be right, but
> > > they will be answers.
> > >
> > > Nathan
> > >
> > > Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> > >
> > > > >This isn't a production box, right?
> > > > no it is not :)))
> > > > thank you for explanations. I'll have quite busy
> evening, i guess.
> > > > //I hope it won't take me the whole weekend :)))
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Nathan J. Underwood [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:24 PM
> > > > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ale] KDE reinstall
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy,
> > > > >
> > > > > When you start uninstalling (the many facets of) kde,
> > > > > you're probably going
> > > > > to get a bunch of "kde is required by......" messages. If
> > > > > you're using kdex,
> > > > > and you remove it and reinstall kdex, most of them will /
> > > > > should still work
> > > > > (again, I'm definately not an rpm guru). You're going to
> > > > > have to use the
> > > > > --nodeps option (i'll let you figure out where :-) a couple
> > > > > of times to get it
> > > > > uninstalled. This isn't a production box, right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Great. thank you Nathan.
> > > > > > Will all xprograms "survive" this reinstall? or I'll have
> > > > > to install them
> > > > > > again?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Nathan J. Underwood [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:10 PM
> > > > > > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ale] KDE reinstall
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You should be able to remove KDE, and
> reinstall via RPM.
> > > > > > > The easiest way
> > > > > > > to find out all of the settings for RPM is to do
> a 'man rpm',
> > > > > > > but here's what I
> > > > > > > would do (this, of course, comes with no
> warranty, expressed
> > > > > > > or implied).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > rpm -qa | grep [kK][dD][eE] <- This will find all of the
> > > > > KDE 'stuff'
> > > > > > > rpm -e <each of the packages> <- This will remove
> > > the packages
> > > > > > > rpm -ivh <new kde packages> <- this will install the new
> > > > > > > packages, with verbose
> > > > > > > output, and give hash marks so that you'll know if it
> > > > > hangs somewhere
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, there are probably much better ways of doing it, but
> > > > > > > I've strayed away from
> > > > > > > RPM's lately (google for 'dependency hell').
> Hope this helps.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nathan ,
> > > > > > > > Sorry, forgot:
> > > > > > > > RH8. I installed it from original CDrom while
> installing
> > > > > > > the system. After
> > > > > > > > that ( i guess it was KDE2) agent updated it to
> KDE3 ....
> > > > > > > > The main 2 reasons to do that :
> > > > > > > > 1. Just to see how to do this
> > > > > > > > 2. I can't apply "schemes" and whole thing
> sometimes just
> > > > > > > hangs, that i have
> > > > > > > > to reboot box - i guess it is because i "played" with
> > > > > > > settings and now can't
> > > > > > > > do certain things.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't have anything there which i would like
> to preserve.
> > > > > > > But if you could
> > > > > > > > please tell me where all customization settings
> go - that
> > > > > > > would be nice.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Nathan J. Underwood
> [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:14 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ale] KDE reinstall
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which distro are you using? Do you have any
> > > settings that
> > > > > > > > > you want to retain?
> > > > > > > > > How did you install it in the first place?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > guys, very simple question:
> > > > > > > > > > how can i reinstall the KDE?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > can i do it using rpms?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thank You
> > > > > > > > > > Andy
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