[ale] SSSCA rears its (ugly) head once more

Ian Kennedy ikennedy at woa.com
Fri Mar 1 17:02:39 EST 2002


http://www.stoppoliceware.org/

has a good explanation of what sssca is about and how to fight it.



Ian Kennedy
Webmaster
World Airlines

>>> Swantje Willms <swillms at mail.sis.pitt.edu> 03/01/02 04:55PM >>>
I'm not sure I even understand what is involved. The copying of what does
this scheme protect?
The content of the drive? - That wouldn't make sense, because it would
make backups of data impossible...
(Certain) software? - That has nothing to do with the drive, really. It
can be supplied by the software if desired.

Can someone explain this copy-protection scheme thing?


On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, George Johnson wrote:

> This scares me too!!  This is why I am not a republi-crat or demo-cian.  I
> would not be the person you are looking for to give any speach on this but I
> can give some sites where you can keep an eye on things like this that the
> main stream media will not report.
> 
> www.wnd.com
> www.newsmax.com
> 
> Keep an eye out on these sites.  You will find all kinds of interesting and
> scary news items here.
> 
> George
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James P. Kinney III [mailto:jkinney at localnetsolutions.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: Charles Shapiro
> Cc: Atlanta Linux User Group (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [ale] SSSCA rears its (ugly) head once more
> 
> 
> It really scares the crap out of me to think that at some point in the
> nearing future, all of the stuff I use, all Open Source, could be
> outlawed for failing to comply with crap like this.
> 
> On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 13:51, Charles Shapiro wrote:
> > If you haven't heard of it, the SSSCA (Security Systems Standards
> > Certification Act) would mandate that all new hard drives contain an
> > as-yet-undecided copy-protection scheme. Buying or selling a new drive
> > which was not so crippled would be a crime.  It  would also be a crime
> > to tamper with the copy-protection hardware or software on a disk drive.
> > Up to a half-million dollar fine or five years in jail for the first
> > offfense. This ain't law yet, but the time to act is now.
> >
> > "When Congress sits idly by in the face of these activities, we
> > essentially sanction the Internet as a haven for thievery"
> > Fritz Hollings (D-SC) Feb 28, 2002 (hearings re the SSSCA)
> >
> > Uh, maybe it's time to do an ALE meeting on "Progress toward outlawing
> > Open Source". Congress is really starting to scare me here. Any lawyers
> > or politicos in the house? I'd be glad to help out, but I don't really
> > feel qualified to do a full presentation.
> >
> > -- CHS
> >
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<DIV>Ian Kennedy<BR>Webmaster<BR>World Airlines<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Swantje 
Willms &lt;swillms at mail.sis.pitt.edu&gt; 03/01/02 04:55PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>I'm 
not sure I even understand what is involved. The copying of what does<BR>this 
scheme protect?<BR>The content of the drive? - That wouldn't make sense, because 
it would<BR>make backups of data impossible...<BR>(Certain) software? - That has 
nothing to do with the drive, really. It<BR>can be supplied by the software if 
desired.<BR><BR>Can someone explain this copy-protection scheme 
thing?<BR><BR><BR>On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, George Johnson wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; This 
scares me too!!&nbsp; This is why I am not a republi-crat or demo-cian.&nbsp; 
I<BR>&gt; would not be the person you are looking for to give any speach on this 
but I<BR>&gt; can give some sites where you can keep an eye on things like this 
that the<BR>&gt; main stream media will not report.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
www.wnd.com<BR>&gt; www.newsmax.com<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Keep an eye out on these 
sites.&nbsp; You will find all kinds of interesting and<BR>&gt; scary news items 
here.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; George<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Original 
Message-----<BR>&gt; From: James P. Kinney III [<A 
href="mailto:jkinney at localnetsolutions.com]">mailto:jkinney at localnetsolutions.com]</A><BR>&gt; 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:35 PM<BR>&gt; To: Charles Shapiro<BR>&gt; Cc: 
Atlanta Linux User Group (E-mail)<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [ale] SSSCA rears its 
(ugly) head once more<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; It really scares the crap out of 
me to think that at some point in the<BR>&gt; nearing future, all of the stuff I 
use, all Open Source, could be<BR>&gt; outlawed for failing to comply with crap 
like this.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 13:51, Charles Shapiro 
wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; If you haven't heard of it, the SSSCA (Security Systems 
Standards<BR>&gt; &gt; Certification Act) would mandate that all new hard drives 
contain an<BR>&gt; &gt; as-yet-undecided copy-protection scheme. Buying or 
selling a new drive<BR>&gt; &gt; which was not so crippled would be a 
crime.&nbsp; It&nbsp; would also be a crime<BR>&gt; &gt; to tamper with the 
copy-protection hardware or software on a disk drive.<BR>&gt; &gt; Up to a 
half-million dollar fine or five years in jail for the first<BR>&gt; &gt; 
offfense. This ain't law yet, but the time to act is now.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt; "When Congress sits idly by in the face of these activities, we<BR>&gt; 
&gt; essentially sanction the Internet as a haven for thievery"<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Fritz Hollings (D-SC) Feb 28, 2002 (hearings re the SSSCA)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt; Uh, maybe it's time to do an ALE meeting on "Progress toward 
outlawing<BR>&gt; &gt; Open Source". Congress is really starting to scare me 
here. Any lawyers<BR>&gt; &gt; or politicos in the house? I'd be glad to help 
out, but I don't really<BR>&gt; &gt; feel qualified to do a full 
presentation.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; -- CHS<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
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dot org.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; James P. Kinney III&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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COO&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; one Linux 
user&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /<BR>&gt; Local Net 
Solutions,LLC \&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at a 
time.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /<BR>&gt; 
770-493-8244&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
\.___________________________./<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. 
Kinney III (M.S. Physics)<BR>&gt; &lt;jkinney at localnetsolutions.com&gt;<BR>&gt; 
Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
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