[ale] OT: The Amazing WEB

Zyman, Andy zymana at hra.nyc.gov
Tue Feb 19 16:10:01 EST 2002


well, then whole thread doesn't make any sense for _me_ .
Sorry. I don't understand why to complain if U don't want to change smth. 
I think I'm missing smth...



> -----Original Message-----
> From: hirsch at zapmedia.com [mailto:hirsch at zapmedia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:37 PM
> To: Zyman, Andy
> Cc: 'ale at ale.org'
> Subject: RE: [ale] OT: The Amazing WEB
> 
> 
> Zyman, Andy writes:
> 
>  > If U ( i mean person ) don't like porn/Maxim/TV/car - 
> don't use it, don't go
>  > out and spend Your money on it.
>  > Porn industry is doing money on CUSTOMERS. They don't 
> "taxed" You as
>  > government do - U want it - u paying them. Bum of inet 
> porn - people simply
>  > want to have porn at their homes.
>  > So before crying "Bad AT&T.. etc, " check out Your own 
> tapes/DVDs and spend
>  > more time with Your children.
>  > Don't You understand that banning -is the best they to 
> make these people (
>  > porn ind ) rich ? 
> 
> Isn't that what we are talking about?  Who said anything about banning
> anyone from doing anything?
> 
> If I think something is bad, I am absolutely within my rights to
> complain about it.  If I think AT&T is doing something bad, then I
> should complain, especially if I am a customer, employee, community
> member or stockholder.  In a case like AT&T, I think they are big
> enough that even general citizens should speak up as we are all part
> of their community, like it or not.
> 
> But that is a far cry from saying that I think AT&T should be banned,
> fined, taxed, or otherwise forced to behave in a particular manner.
> There is a world of difference between "I think AT&T should do this"
> and "I think AT&T should be forced to do this".
> 
> --Michael
> 
>  > 
>  > Andy
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > From: Kevin Krumwiede [mailto:krum at smyrnacable.net]
>  > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:35 PM
>  > > To: Jim Popovitch; ale at ale.org
>  > > Subject: RE: [ale] OT: The Amazing WEB
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > Yes it could -- not because it's viewed on their products, 
>  > > but because these
>  > > companies, too, have their fingers in such a wide range of 
>  > > industries that
>  > > it's almost impossible to avoid supporting them if you 
> don't want to.
>  > > 
>  > > Krum
>  > > 
>  > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > > From: Jim Popovitch [mailto:jimpop at rocketship.com]
>  > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:29 PM
>  > > > To: Irv Mullins; ale at ale.org
>  > > > Subject: RE: [ale] OT: The Amazing WEB
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Couldn't the same things be said of RCA, Magnavox, Panasonic,
>  > > > etc... For it
>  > > > is on their products that the viewing happens.  Identifying 
>  > > motives, and
>  > > > keeping proper perspective, is key to arguments such as these.
>  > > >
>  > > > -Jim P.
>  > > 
>  > > 
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