[ale] need some input on tv capture cards
Calvin Harrigan
charrig at earthlink.net
Fri Dec 27 14:44:16 EST 2002
Bad wording perhaps?
It allows you to use your tv as a monitor.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something.
Calvin...
On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 13:46, Geoffrey wrote:
> Calvin Harrigan wrote:
> > It allows you to connect your computer to the TV.
>
> I can do the same without a vga ntsc converter. So I'm still wondering
> what the purpose of it is.
>
> Tell me where I'm going wrong. cable is connected to the tuner card.
> From there I can use something like streamer to do capture that has
> nothing at all to do with vga. I can do this on a headless system. As
> a matter of fact, I've got a headless system connected to a camera that
> monitors my driveway. I could easily fire up streamer there and save
> the content to the drive.
>
> >
> > Calvin...
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 21:16, Geoffrey wrote:
> >
> >>John Wells wrote:
> >>
> >>>Found a note at http://www.freeplaytv.org/ that says I'll need a VGA to
> >>>NTSC convertor because the video-out on a video card results in poor video
> >>>quality. I currently have a Geforce2 card with S-video out.
> >>>
> >>>Anyone know if I'll truly need the vga-2-ntsc, or can I get by without?
> >>>They're rather pricey at $95.00.
> >>
> >>Okay, I'm confused. Where would you use this device? The capture card
> >>takes data straight from either s-video or rca. How does the vga
> >>connector come into play??
> >>
> >>You can capture without having the VGA come into play at all.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>>
> >>>James P. Kinney III said:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I would bet that it will take a full 640x480 but at a lower frame rate.
> >>>>Video capture is something that requires some serious hardware to get
> >>>>good quality.
> >>>>
> >>>>$50 retail is only a $20 card.
> >>>>
> >>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 18:04, John Wells wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hmmm...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At least when it comes to the ATI, the user manual says you can choose
> >>>>
> >>>>>from 4 presets when viewing (page 21 in
> >>>>
> >>>>>http://mirror.ati.com/support/manualpdf/WonderVE.pdf):
> >>>>>
> >>>>>180x120
> >>>>>240x180
> >>>>>320x240
> >>>>>640x480
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Now, does this mean it will take a lesser resolution and "stretch",
> >>>>>resulting in poorer picture quality? I'm a newbie when it comes to
> >>>>>this ;-).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>John
> >>>>>
> >>>>>James P. Kinney III said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hmm. Capture cards in the $50 range are pretty weak. You will not be
> >>>>>
> >>>>>happy with the screen quality if viewed full screen on a tv. Neither
> >>>>>of the two you listed will do 640x480 capture. 320x240 seems to be
> >>>>>the max for the low end cards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 15:05, John Wells wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>My plan is to setup a PVR system using x10's entertainment anywhere
> >>>>>
> >>>>>and a tv capture card. The x10 package will allow me to transmit
> >>>>>the signal from my machine upstairs to the television down. I'll
> >>>>>also likely use the card to watch a game or two while hacking ;-).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>It just occurred to me after James' post to check stereo sound.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Neither card has it. I may hold off and try to find one that does.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>John
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Calvin Harrigan said:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 14:41, John Wells wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Have a gift certificate from Circuit City, and want to pick up a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>tv
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>capture card tonight. Their site lists two available:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>ATI Tech Wonder VE TV Card
> >>>>>>>>>Brand/Model: ATE 100703102CCS
> >>>>>>>>>$49.99
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Hauppauge PCI Card "WinTV Go"
> >>>>>>>>>Brand/Model: HAU 190
> >>>>>>>>>$49.99
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Anyone have experience with these? Linux friendly? Which would
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>you recommend?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>John
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>They both work. Both use the bt878 chipset.
> >>>>>>>>I lean towards the Hauppauge cards though...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>If you don't mind me asking what do you plan on doing with it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Just
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>to watch tv, video cap, etc.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Calvin...
> >>>>>>>>
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