[ale] Is there any way to stop this travesty? -- NO, of coursenot!

Robert Heaven robertheaven at earthlink.net
Fri Aug 23 16:51:26 EDT 2002


Being, originally, from Redneckville Alabama I can attest to these
facts. I've seen abuse of voting restrictions in action. I've seen
teachers in the public school system fired or pushed out for not voting
for the right school board members. I've seen farmers unable to sell
their crops for voting for the wrong party. And, this was in the 1970's.

Yes, it can happen here.

On Fri, 2002-08-23 at 15:21, rhiannen wrote:
> Charles Marcus wrote:
> > huh?  Exactly how is open ballot voting (everyone being able to see who
> > voted for whom, and when) *worse* than secret ballot voting in this
> > respect??
> 
> Easy.  If you've been told that "Very Dire Things" may "accidently"
> happen to you or your loved ones if your vote a certain way, are you
> going to want to have your vote registered publically for everyone to
> see if you decided to vote differently? Don't think that could ever
> happen?  
> 
> Why are there so many international oversight committees watching
> elections around the world?  One of the most abusive uses of corrupt
> power is to threaten by any means necessary to hold and maintain that
> power.  So America hasn't gotten that bad - YET.  Take away the right to
> cast a ballot in secret & the door is wide open for precisely that
> abuse.
> 
> <snip>
>  
> > This is one of the arguments used, but in reality, what it does is relieve
> > people of one more burden of responsibility.  This is how they dumb us down
> > and mold us into what they want (willing slaves) - they tell us 'Oh, you
> > don't have to worry about that - *we'll* take care of that for you', and the
> > next thing you know, the servant (government) has become the master.
> 
> How?  As long as the records are publically and legitimately kept of WHO
> came in to vote (& how often), HOW they individually voted does not need
> to be on public record.  I cannot see how my casting my vote in secret
> could in anyway whatsoever "dumb down" nor enslave myself nor my progeny
> nor my country.  Please clarify.
> 
> 
> > As to whether or not you are a slave:
> > 
> > In medieval times, if more than 10% of what you earned in a year went to
> > your Lord, you were considered a slave.  How much of what you earn goes to
> > the federal pig?
> 
> Heard it and completely agree with the sentiment.  
> 
> ----
> rhia
> knowledge is power - arm yourself
> 
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