[ale] [somewhat OT] Fat thin client

[Jeff Hubbs]

Sorry if I came out sounding too negative about this.  Here are some
things you can try in order to help matters out:

Separate swap drive on separate controller

Even just a LITTLE more RAM (4MB?  8MB?)

Remote swap (NFS to file-based swap) - might not be so hot if all you
can do is half-duplex 10base-T Ethernet 

Remote (i.e., NFS-mount) anything else, like /usr/bin.  Are you OK with
at least using your workstation as an NFS server?

- Jeff

On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 18:44, Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> Fitting it all on a 200MB drive, *that's* what's wrong with Linux with
> tvm!  
> 
> Also, I've found that new 72-pin SIMMs are expensive enough to make one
> wonder why one is bothering.  eBay time?
> 
> I just recently tried putting Mandrake and Red Hat on small-drived
> machines and it's painful once you decide you want X.  You might think
> about borrowing a bigger drive, doing the install to that, making sure
> it works, then chop away stuff to fit in 200MB, and transfer the
> contents over.  
> 
> At 16/32MB, the machine will be in severe pain over swap.  Couple low
> mem with 1-2MB/s disk I/O and...OW!  OW!
> 
> If nothing else, please get hold of a second drive to put on a second
> controller for swap use (I can help you out there - I've got a few - and
> I also have some extra ISA NICs).
> 
> - Jeff
> 
> On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 14:16, Geoffrey wrote:
> > What's wrong with Linux with twm?  A lightweight window manager with the 
> > menus for only those things she needs.  I set my mother-in-law up with a 
> > p200/96mb/1gig machine.  She uses sawfish/kde.
> > 
> > You could go a similar route, but you might have to up the memory, which 
> > is real cheap these days.  Possibly more disk too, but you could squeeze 
> > the necessary stuff into 200mb.
> > 
> > Jordi S. Bunster wrote:
> > > Problem: My mother wants email, and does not want to mess neither with
> > > my brother's machine neither with my workstation, because we're always
> > > using them.
> > > 
> > > I have some spare hardware here at home. P75, 16 or 32 megs, 200 mb
> > > harddisk. The problem is, I don't want to make it an X-Terminal to my
> > > workstation, because I don't have that much horsepower to serve her
> > > graphical applications and my Java development (it is already painful
> > > to develop Java2 on a P200 with 64 megs of ram). I'm also being the NAT
> > > router to the house. No way.
> > > 
> > > What I wanted was a thin standalone machine, at least with the ability
> > > to run a decent graphical web-broswer. Decent enough for her to access a
> > > web-based mail client from my workstation, and thus read her alredy
> > > fecthmailed messages.
> > > 
> > > I thought about FreeDOS and this Arachne graphical browser. Though its
> > > license seems a bit odd.
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions? By the way, buying a NIC is out of question. With that
> > > money, I can buy her a computer faster than mine.
> > > 
> > > -- Jsb
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 
> > I didn't have to buy my radio from a specific company to listen
> > to FM, why doesn't that apply to the Internet (anymore...)?
> > 
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