[ale] Redhat security updates available on RHN only ?

[David Bronson]

<Rant_Continued>

This is the offending message that I have gotten from before noon
today (it is now 10:41pm). I certainly don't expect redhat to do
anything for free, but to position itself as a large distribution and
then use as a primary tool to update its software - a product that is
difficult if not impossible to choose to use a non-redhat mirror. That
is somewhat M$ish.

Error Message:
Free service limited due to high load, please try again later
(server 1001012212)
Error Class Code: 51
Error Class Info:
Due to extremely high traffic, access to Red Hat Network is
currently
limited to subscription customers.  Please try again
later.  If you
would like to become a subscription customer, go to
https://rhn.redhat.com/preview/priority_service.pxt
for more information.

</Rant_Continued>

On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 10:20:11PM -0400, David Bronson wrote:
> I typically use debian but I have one redhat machine. It is particularly
> frustrating to apt-get updates without a hitch on the debian machines
> but the redhat machine errors with something to the effect -
> 
> Redhat's servers are too busy now to allow you as a non-paying redhat user
> to access. Try back later or send us some cash.
> 
> up2date is tolerable when the servers actually choose to send the files. 
> 
> David
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 01:35:47PM -0400, Jerry Z. Yu wrote:
> > 	I couldn't do that on custom secure servers. I may try it on my 
> > home machine though.
> > 	Thanks Josh for the 'it is free' tip. I succsfully signed up a 
> > corporate account on RHN w/o registering any system or paying $$. I 
> > downloaded new bind-* RPMs off it (although  they are just the same 
> > version as those available on update.redhat.com & its mirrors. Maybe the 
> > 'only available from the Red Hat Network' statement is just some 
> > smoke/mirror thing.
> > 
> > On 13 Aug 2002, cfowler wrote:
> > 
> > #On the machine you wish to upgrade, run 'rhn_register' and register that
> > #machine.  Then use up2date to update the packages.
> > #
> > #
> > #On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 12:34, Jerry Z. Yu wrote:
> > #> Fulton, I found it on http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2002-119.html for 
> > #> the bind* packages. link to errata packages are removed, and the exact 
> > #> quote from the bottom of the page is
> > #> "The unlinked packages above are only available from the Red Hat Network"
> > #> 
> > #> The links on RHN page are talking about subscription and fees. Thus I had 
> > #> the impression that's the only way, although it didn't mention it is 
> > #> fee-based or the other way around.
> > #> 
> > #> 
> > #> On 13 Aug 2002, Josh Freeman wrote:
> > #> 
> > #> #you can join the red hat network for free. Yes, it's a bit questionable,
> > #> #but it is free.
> > #> #
> > #> #And up2date rocks.
> > #> #
> > #> #Josh
> > #> #
> > #> #On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 11:52, Jerry Z. Yu wrote:
> > #> #> I were following errata page on RedHat. For bind* updates for RH73, it 
> > #> #> says "The unlinked packages above are only available from the Red Hat 
> > #> #> Network".  however, I can get those packages from anonymous  
> > #> #> ftp://updates.redhat.com.  we didn't subscribe to RHN and no plan to do so 
> > #> #> in near future either. My question is, is this violates RedHat's rights ? 
> > #> #> Or they become ridiculous to start to charge for timely security fix?
> > #> #> 
> > #> #> Jerry Z. Yu					+1-404-487-8544 (O)
> > #> #> systems engineer				z.yu at voicecom.com
> > #> #> is support, voicecom, llc			www.voicecom.com
> > #> #> 
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> > #> #Center for Assistive Technology and Environmental Access 
> > #> #
> > #> 
> > #> Jerry Z. Yu					+1-404-487-8544 (O)
> > #> systems engineer				z.yu at voicecom.com
> > #> is support, voicecom, llc			www.voicecom.com
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> > Jerry Z. Yu					+1-404-487-8544 (O)
> > systems engineer				z.yu at voicecom.com
> > is support, voicecom, llc			www.voicecom.com
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