[ale] Sun,Linux,Java, oh my

[Benjamin Scherrey]

	Java's slowness has nothing to do with being in the user space vs. kernel. Its a byte 
code interpreted virtual machine. Now there have been and are currently (to some respect) 
compilers that take Java source (or bytecode) and turn it into C or actual binary executables but 
they don't seem to be able to keep up with the "standard" or fully support significant features of the 
language specification. The gcc project, for example, has a basic java compiler but doesn't support 
the gui stuff. 

	FWIW - Linux has the ability to associate java programs with the jvm and run as if they 
were normal executables but you're not going to get away from having to have that virtual machine 
in there somewhere under linux. I was an early adopter of java but they made some really bad 
decisions early on and have grown the thing too big and too fast without letting it stabilize and 
mature natually. For java to last it's going to have to take a few steps back first or else it will 
eventually go the way of PowerBuilder. Until then there are other options waiting in the wings to 
take over...

	best regards,
	
		Ben Scherrey

8/11/2002 1:45:04 PM, Cade Thacker <linux at cade.org> wrote:

>So I was just reading a post on slashdot about Sun maybe releasing their
>own brand of Linux, and I got to thinking, would there be anyway to write
>a kernel mod that would directly support Java code. Basically to fuse
>Java(JVM) into the core of Linux to make it REALLY fast, more server side
>apps than client apps.  Or just a way in general to really tie the two
>together and make it fly? Any thoughts? Or maybe even rewrite the Kernel
>so that it nativly supported Java class files, or maybe kinda like an
>applicance type thing.
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>Just some thoughts...what do you guys/gals think...
>
>PS I will send a shinny new penny to anybody who can tell me(with out
>cheating), what Sun stands for.
>
>--cade
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>On Linux vs Windows
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