Fwd: [ale] FW: linuxgruven

[Derek]

Hey you guys, 

Just got finished talking to harry from atlanta, and he wanted me to alert 
anyone anywhere about a new startup company based in Lombard IL that is a 
possible spinoff of Linuxgruven (scam)[read below Linux Island resembles 
Linuxgruven, coowned by former Linuxgruven management 
http://www.linuxisland.com 
]
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Subject: [ale] FW: linuxgruven
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:33:38 -0500
From: Chris Fowler <ChrisF at computone.com>
To: ale at ale.org
To: "'ale at ale.org'" <ale at ale.org>



You guys were talking about Linuxgruven  I'm forwading an email I received.

Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry J Harshaw [mailto:hharshaw at hotmail.com]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:50 AM
To: ChrisF at computone.com
Subject: linuxgruven
Importance: High


WARNING!! linuxgruven WARNING! by hharshaw
 I have been in this class for four weeks and am a Devry student. I thought
that I could get my foot in the door and work in the IT feild but this is a
bunch of bull shit!

They will rob you of 3200 dollars of which I only paid 2500 back in
November. They don't know where you will be working if asked.

They keep secrets from the class when ever we ask questions and argue with
us that they can't discuss with us where we will be working.

If this isn't enough to convince you I will tell you that two weeks into the
program the original teacher names Demetri Mouratis was replaced by a
inexperienced women. Her name is Stephanie. The other teacher is Pedro. A
spanish dude. Stephanie passed her exam one and a half weeks ago and is
teaching us with no prfessional background.

The scam is they tell you that you have a job for 45000 per year but you
need their certification or comprable SAIR.
Stephanie cant teach in the afternoon. I am fighting to get my money back
right now. Dont do it they will leave you high and dry and tell you that all
the message boards under yahoo are full of disgruntal workers. Gee I wonder
why.

Type in Yahoo search: linuxgruven

You will then be led to a bunch of links that discuss this matter.
 I can be reached at h_harshaw at yahoo.com or call me at 770-420-9837
There time is at an end and it ends with my last word

To give you a bit of how much money they are makin off of this figure about
15 to 20 students per class at an average of 2500 3900 dollars per student.
That averages to around 45-50000 dollars per class they hold three classes
per month everyday for a month.
Now Three classes are 45000 * 60 students is 135000 dollars per month. It is
different if they did not offer a job and this was a recognozed school but
it is not and also their certification is not recognozed internationally not
nationally. You can only work with in the company of Linux gruven.com The
SAIR is the one you want that only costs you 100 dollars per test. This is
normal. This SAIR test is recognized. Call me if you have any more
questions. All I know is that They have to many secrets and they are
collecting a whole lot of money for nothing.

They dont even give you a text book that is recognized. What they give you
is a self compiled binder of all the stuff that is free over the internet
anyway.
They also give to you eight of the most common OS distributions of the Linux
family. Don't be fooled this is also free and downloadable off the internet.

So you get nothing for your money. Not even a dedicated professional
experienced professor that is woth at least 45000 dollars.
I am not the only person that feels this way the classes before me and after
me feel the same way they call me up complaining.
They fucked up getting involved with me.

MAIL THIS TO ALL YOUR FREINDS





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Title: FW: linuxgruven





You guys were talking about Linuxgruven  I'm forwading an email I received.


Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry J Harshaw [mailto:hharshaw at hotmail.com]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:50 AM
To: ChrisF at computone.com
Subject: linuxgruven
Importance: High



WARNING!! linuxgruven WARNING! by hharshaw 
 I have been in this class for four weeks and am a Devry student. I thought that I could get my foot in the door and work in the IT feild but this is a bunch of bull shit!

They will rob you of 3200 dollars of which I only paid 2500 back in November. They don't know where you will be working if asked.

They keep secrets from the class when ever we ask questions and argue with us that they can't discuss with us where we will be working.

If this isn't enough to convince you I will tell you that two weeks into the program the original teacher names Demetri Mouratis was replaced by a inexperienced women. Her name is Stephanie. The other teacher is Pedro. A spanish dude. Stephanie passed her exam one and a half weeks ago and is teaching us with no prfessional background.

The scam is they tell you that you have a job for 45000 per year but you need their certification or comprable SAIR.
Stephanie cant teach in the afternoon. I am fighting to get my money back right now. Dont do it they will leave you high and dry and tell you that all the message boards under yahoo are full of disgruntal workers. Gee I wonder why.

Type in Yahoo search: linuxgruven 


You will then be led to a bunch of links that discuss this matter.
 I can be reached at h_harshaw at yahoo.com or call me at 770-420-9837
There time is at an end and it ends with my last word


To give you a bit of how much money they are makin off of this figure about 15 to 20 students per class at an average of 2500 3900 dollars per student. That averages to around 45-50000 dollars per class they hold three classes per month everyday for a month. 

Now Three classes are 45000 * 60 students is 135000 dollars per month. It is different if they did not offer a job and this was a recognozed school but it is not and also their certification is not recognozed internationally not nationally. You can only work with in the company of Linux gruven.com The SAIR is the one you want that only costs you 100 dollars per test. This is normal. This SAIR test is recognized. Call me if you have any more questions. All I know is that They have to many secrets and they are collecting a whole lot of money for nothing.

They dont even give you a text book that is recognized. What they give you is a self compiled binder of all the stuff that is free over the internet anyway.

They also give to you eight of the most common OS distributions of the Linux family. Don't be fooled this is also free and downloadable off the internet. 

So you get nothing for your money. Not even a dedicated professional experienced professor that is woth at least 45000 dollars.

I am not the only person that feels this way the classes before me and after me feel the same way they call me up complaining. 

They fucked up getting involved with me.


MAIL THIS TO ALL YOUR FREINDS
 


 



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