[Fwd: [ale] DMCA Protests]

Chris Woodruff cwoodruff at openpenguin.com
Mon Jul 23 23:35:37 EDT 2001


Isn't that what I was asking people to do?  I never said to go against a
corporation.  I simply gave the people on this list the addresses or ways to
get the addresses of their congressmen so if they believed that the DMCA is
wrong to write them and express their opinions.  How is that whining like a
anti-capitalist?  I am a strong supporter of Capitalism.  What I do not want
to see is corporations having laws written, passed and enforced that
withhold a personal right and give them a monetary influence in place of
that right.

The next fight is taking place right now in term of libraries and the right
they have to electronic copyright material.
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36584-2001Feb7.html

Chris Woodruff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ned Williams" <nwilliams at interland.net>
To: ale at ale.org
Cc: <ale at ale.org>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [ale] DMCA Protests]


> I would agree the DMCA is vague, I would also agree that it does seem to
have less
> consitutional forsight in its forming and more corporate lobbying, but the
solution
> then is to be good little americans and write our senators and
congressmen,not
> throw our hands to the sky and damn the corporations for trying to make a
buck, let
> them try, they try their thing(corporations,read groups of americans), we
try our
> thing(read individual americans), congress does or does not do
something(read
> questionable americans), someone gets sued(usually the individual
american), or
> someone sues(usually the afformentioned group of americans,unless its the
> courageous group like EFF,then they sue and tell everyone about it), in
the case of
> the adobe mess, someone's rights (though this is even a murky issue seeing
as how
> he's Russian) are being abuse under the guise of the DMCA ,then the
supreme court
> gets involved and the constitution and its opponents get their day in
court.
>
> Jonathan Rickman wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Ned Williams wrote:
> >
> > > Are we talking about a legimate constitutional issue with the DMCA or
whining
> > > like a bunch of anti-capitalist socialist from Genoa here?
> >
> > A little of both. The general idea of the DMCA is a good thing. The old
> > "information wants to be freeeee" thing doesn't fly with me. But the
laws are
> > much too vague and lend themselves to corporate abuse. The first really
high
> > profile arrest was made at DefCon. The man was arrested for
"circumventing"
> > encryption methods used to secure documents. Basically, he cracked
ROT-13.
> > WOW!!! This man MUST be stopped!!! Have any MP3s on your HDD right
now??? You
> > could be arrested and charged. Oh, so you actually have the CDs they
were ripped
> > from??? That's ok. We can't arrest you, but we can sue you. Sorry, the
DMCA
> > really is that vague.
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Rickman
> > X Corps Security
> > http://www.xcorps.net
> >
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